Kraj za Alfa Romeo 159

Bolje da se FIAT bavio Alfom,a ne posrnulim Chryslerom.

Jedan od najlepsih modela ikada(!!!!!!), a naslednik se ne nazire skoro, nazalost. Sve cetri izvedbe su extra: Brera, Spyder, SW, Sedan.

U toj klasi je ubedljiv po svemu ovaj auto..
http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2009-a4/1024x768/wallpaper_07.htm

Naravno da se ne živi od lepote kada su automobili u pitanju. To Alfa i VW kao dve krajnosti (suprotnosti u svakom smislu) stalno potvrđuju.

Alfa 159 jeste lep automobil, ali da bi se masovno prodavao mora da poseduje kvalitet i pouzdanost.

Sigurno bi se prodavala da je dobra.

P.S. Fiatova strategija je inače poznata kao idiotska.

Toliko o kvalitetu i pouzdanosti Alfe i fiata.

Buhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

VAG sVW gazi.

Ovo me obradovalo vise nego da sam kupio novog Pasata CC.
Ovo je dokaz da od fiata leba nema.

Jedan od najlepsih automobila u segmentu, ako ne i najlepsi...jedino sto nije preterano pouzdan...ali Alfa se uzima srcem, a ne razumom :-)

Takodje, ovo je kraj za jedan od najlepsih automobila ikada...
Steta sto nije bilo GTA varijante, sa ferrari motorom kao sto je najavljivano, makar u 500primeraka

Kanta bila i ostala!
Nadam se da ce VW odustati od kupovine AR

ови vw трактористи никада неће схватити шта је алфа,тако да се не вреди упуштати у расправу са њима. што се тиче 159 то је један од најлепших аутомобила у 21. веку и да нема таквих аутомобила, ауто индустрија би упала у потпуну конфекцијску производњу,за коју су пре свега задужени vw,ауди,дајву,тојота и остале убице стила и дизајна.

@basa

Sta vredi sto su lepi kad nisu dobri.Kada se nesto pokvari na putu necu se sigurno vaditi na lepotu.

Steta...Najlepsi u klasi. Nisam optimista po pitanju izgleda Djulije, u kontekstu da je ovo tesko nadmasiti.

@basa mrkalj
Ubacujes Audi tu?!Pa Audi je jedan od najlepsih brendova...
http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2008-a5/1024x768/wallpaper_01.htm
A,taj A5 je jedan od najlepsih automobila danas,i pokupio je mali milion nagrada za dizajn...
Uz to sto je i prodavan,iako je lep,dok vidis,ima onih lepih ali nesto prodaja ne ide...P.S
RS5 ;)

@basa
Haha, VW traktoristi... :D
Nisam fan Alfe, ali razumem svakog ko voli taj auto. S druge strane, bas ne razumem likove koji vole VW kao marku. Imaju par dobrih i lepih automobila za svaki respekt, ali VW znak mi je skroz antipatican.
@dusan
Trebao si staviti sliku redizajna, sve bi rekla. Vidis jednog, video si sve. Spolja i iznutra...

"ona (159) u Fiatovim pogonima u Napulju u potpunosti prestala da se proizvodi, te je konstruktorski prostor prepustila Fiat Pandi. Inače se panda i 159 prave na istoj platformi, pa je to tek tako. To je izlazna strategija, navjerovatnije, i relokacija proizvodnje. 159 je model na odlasku, nažalost. Očekujte giuliu vrlo brzo, iz neke druge tvornice. Inače 159 je odličan auto i FIAT je pogrešio u tome što taj auto uopšte nije marketinški forsiran.

Šteta, najlepši auto u klasi!

nije bitno biti lep auto..nego dobar i kvalitetan..a alfo to nikad nije bila..

Sada će doca da nam plače...danima...

@carobnjak
Ova vest je moj najveći argument kao potvrda nekvaliteta Fiat&Co. automobila ;)

Uvek mi se svidjao izgled alfe 159, prava sportska linija.
Moj drugar ima dizelku 2.4 u nekoj ti varijanti, 200 ps-a, 2009. godiste, 19-ice felne, extra izgleda, ima i polugice za menjanje brzina iza volana, ali trese bubrege u voznji, za nase puteve ni pod razno.
Ali iskreno, gledam juce parkiran novi audi a4, beli, sa petokrakim felnama 18, iskreno jos bolje izgleda, tacno pokazuje da alfa ne moze ni blizu nemacke trojke.
Steta za 159, moj omiljeni auto iz njihovog programa, jedan od retkih za koji bih se usudio da kupim, polovan naravno. Dobra, 1.9 dizel, 150 ps-a, sa navigacijom i kozom, nekih 10.000 eura, 4 godine stara, nije to losa kupovina.

Ovaj auto izgleda 100x modernije nego mnogi modeli za 2012 godinu za americko trziste, iako je izasao pre 6 godina...

Razlog neuspeha 159 nije što je u pitanju loš auto, naprotiv, mislim da alfa nije izbacila bolji auto u poslednjih 20 godina. Ali, visoka cena u paketu sa prilično nepraktičnim rešenjima u segmentu gde je treba privući porodične ljude = neuspeh. Moj drugar ima 159, sa standardnim vešanjem auto je toliko nizak napred da silazak sa ivičnjaka bez drljanja branikom predstavlja nemoguću misiju.

Procenat kupaca koji traže baš takav auto, i koji su spremni da robuju autu zarad lepog dizajna, nije dovoljan za uspeh na tržištu.

@Damko
A 8 godine stara ce biti 4000e...previse gube na ceni, moj bivsi stanar je imao 147, kupio ga je kada je bio godinu-dve star, bila je oko 15000e, kada je kroz 2 godine pokusao da ga proda, i spustio cenu 2-3000 u odnosu na pare koje je on dao nije mogao da je proda. Zadrzao je, vozi je i danas, a danas ona kosta oko 3000e.
Inace, na samo popravke mu je otislo vise od 3-4000e, ali on je nije pazio, dosta kvarova je bilo njegova krivica

Ali najjaci su, gledam oglase 2008 god kosta 8900, Audi A4 kosta 20k iz te godine. :) Alfa 159 je lep auto spolja, a unutra kao da je iz 80-ih. A da ne pominjem sto je Alfa "pouzdana". :)

Jednog dana će da se priča o lepoti Alfe 159 i o tome kako dizajnerski nije imala takmaca, tj. iz nekog čudnog razloga će ipak obeležiti istoriju automobila kao kontroverzni model, ni lepšeg auta, ni lošije sreće.
Kladim se da je koštala oko 15.000 , prodavala bi se ko luda
Neka dizajn prodaju kinezima, šteta da se ovo ne viđa na ulicama belog sveta

Alfa 159:

"Ti si savrsenstvo bez mane,
ti si deo mojih snova,
ti si lutka sa naslovne strane
i treba ti lova!"

Malo ljudi uopste moze da shvati filozofiju i bit Alfe.
Ona nikada nije pravila komercijalna vozila za siroke mase.
Jedno je sigurno, ne postoji ni dan danas auto D segmenta koji moze da stane uz ovu Alfu sto se atraktivnosti tice.
Ona je takodje i broj 1 sto se tice modela Alfe unutar njene bogate porodice kroz istoriju...
Kao sto neko rece, modernija je nego neki modeli koji su se juce pojavili!
Sta su greske? Prevelika tezina i previsoka cena, losa prodajna politika bez akcija i popusta kad je uoceno da je prodaja slaba, losa tj. nikakva reklamiranost itd.
Nema govora o losem kvalitetu!
Istina je da sve Alfe imaju osetljivo ogibljenje sto najvise dolazi da izrazaja na nasim "saVWrsenim" putevima koji su ipak za raznorazne "traktore"...

I pored svega ona ce za mene ostati jedan od najomiljenijih modela, a u buducnosti i najbolji oldtajmer...
Slava joj!

P.S. sto se naslednika tj. Giulia-e tice, losa politika se nastavlja jer je ona morala biti predstavljena vec ove jeseni u Frankfurtu posto je proslo 6 godina a to je prosecni vek modela. Nazalost ona jos nije ni na vidiku, mada renderi obecavaju...

A od danas ova crvena lepotica od gore krasi moj desktop! :)

volim alfu ma kakva god bila.kvarljiva ili pouzdana.ipak ona ima nesto vise u svom sarmu od ostalih.Vama ostalima je to tesko objasniti

carobnjak
1973g. sa Maserati opremom..
Ne stoji koja je cena , ali ima mob.. :)
Ako zelis imati legendu, prava je prilika..

@Panchev9
pozdrav! Radije ne bih, gde naci delove?
SM kosta mozda i 20 hiljada eura...
Pre bih uzeo 3 Alfe 159! :)))

P.s. a i moje je godiste, kako to moze biti oldtajmer? :)))

carobnjak
Ma kakav 159..
I dalje mi je u mislima..
Ima ruzicasti stof na sedistima.. :)
I samo 2.000km!
Ali za cenu treba pozvati..

@auto

Jako zanimljiv tekst:

"Od kojih dijelova je sastavljen najnepouzdaniji automobil?'

http://www.tportal.hr/lifestyle/autozona/138226/Od-kojih-dijelova-je-sastavljen-najnepouzdaniji-automobil.html

@ Carobnjak
"Malo ljudi uopste moze da shvati filozofiju i bit Alfe.
Ona nikada nije pravila komercijalna vozila za siroke mase."

Nije pravila za siroke narodne mase, zato sto nikad nije uspela u tome. :)
Istorija jako cestih kvarova je prati iz generacije u generaciju, sto je slucaj i sa 159. Na taj nacin nikada nece ni biti komercijalna jer je zreli ljudi izbegavaju.
Dzabe i lep dizajn i mastoviti materijali, kada vreme provedeno kod masjtora > aktulene voznje istih.

@ carobnjak

https://autoblog.rs/blog/auto/vesti/2011/07/15/frankestajnov-automobil-monster-mk1

Kako moj komšija ima Alfu 33 srebrno sivu, 1990 ili 1991.god , nisam baš siguran, ko nova, samo 1 zadnji rub pustio, pali ko nova, ono jes' da je čuva i održava, ali nemoguće da je loša. Pa i poneki Yugo iz tog vremena još uvek šljaka, a kamoli Alfa. Malo je problem veći, jer se Alfe akaju do iznemoglosti, a kako i ne bi kad izazivaju zvukom za većim gasom?
A onda pošto ih izakaju, završe na našim tržištima

auto je predobro.

za ove sto naglasavaju vw u svakoj rjeci ubij te se

@ Panchev9 02 Sep 2011, 17:48
Imaš možda i nerke sličice?

Ko je lud da kupi ova namrgođena govna pored nemačke konkurencije?

"Volkswagen is like mother who loves u, Alfa is like hot chick that fu**s u" :)

@Ex Italo fan

Pozdrav! GTI je Mr. SaVWrseni! :)))

@Gosp. Merlin
VW jeste savršen, što ja ne mogu biti.
Treba znati i umeti prepoznati savršenost. Ali ni Vi Gosn. Merlin sa svom vašom veštinom ne možete pomći ovim kršavelama da postanu njegovo Visočanstvo Das is Auto.

@carobnjak
Pozdrav, takođe.
Ako nije, verovatno mu je brat blizanac.
Neću pisati moje mišljenje o 159-ki, pošto ga znaš i Ti, a verovatno i ostali sa kojima obično komuniciram.

Originalan tekst:

"Alfa Romeo 159 heading for the edgy dustbin of history:

Say what you will about the Alfa Romeo 159, but it's arguably one of the most attractive sports sedans on the (foreign) market. And when it's gone, it will be missed. But gone is precisely what it will be soon, as the Fiat group begins its gradual discontinuation.

According to reports, production of the 159 has already ceased as the assembly plant in Naples where it's built is re-tooled for production of the new Fiat Panda. The entire model line has reportedly disappeared from the order books in several keys markets, including the UK, while other markets continue offering the 159 from stockpiles built up ahead of the factory's temporary closure, but that means only four colors and one engine are available.

The 159 was a model mired by its shortcomings from the get-go. Although the Giugiaro styling turned heads, its edgy front end made for poor aerodynamics. The GM-sourced platform didn't serve the car well, and neither did its engines. And while it was originally engineered to meet U.S. regulations, the brand's return to the American market was pushed back time and time again, and is still yet to arrive.

The departure of the 159 leaves a gaping hole in not only Alfa Romeo's but the entire Fiat group's line-up. Aside from the Maserati Quattroporte and Lancia-badged Chryslers, the Golf-sized Alfa Giulietta, Lancia Delta and Fiat Bravo hatchbacks now stand as the largest passenger vehicles the company offers. And with the 159's successor – expected to be dubbed Giulia – not expected until later in 2013, it looks to stay that way for another couple of years at least. "

@GTI sportska sprava
mozda ali se bar trudim!
Hvala na ukazanoj casti! :)))

Oficijelni jezik auto industrije bi trebao da bude Nemački. Zato ove tekstove na ostrvskom jeziku, neću da čitam. Nađi nešto na nemačkom, recimo ADAC, gde se hvale ova gov..na.

"24.08.2011 AFTER A SIX YEAR RUN ALFA ROMEO 159 PRODUCTION WINDS DOWN:

The yanking last month of the Alfa 159 from the company’s UK pricelists signals the wind-down of production of this D-segment sedan, its sales on all markets being already limited to just small handfuls.

With the replacement Giulia now delayed until at least the second half of 2013, Alfa Romeo has built up stock of the 159 to see it through until then, but production at the Naples factory has now been halted so that the plant can tool up for the new Fiat Panda which debuts next month. As a result, orders are no longer being taken for the 159, with buyers only able to choose from stock, comprised of a drastically slimmed-down range – only two standard and two optional extra colours and and one engine, the 2.0 MultiJet (with a base starting price of 27,000 euros on the Italian market for the 136 CV sedan).
The 159 and its estate spin-off, the 159 Sportwagon, were cars that promised much but in the end never quite delivered. The 159 succeeded the 156, giving it a very tough act to follow; the 156 had been one of Alfa Romeo’s biggest hits in decades. Developed in the midst of the ill-fated Fiat-GM joint venture, the 159 had a troubled gestation, beginning life on the American carmaker’s Epsilon platform before being shifted, relatively late in development, to the more sophisticated but expensive Premium platform. This was done by Alfa Romeo in an attempt to salvage the cost sunk in Premium, since the projected 166 replacement to be built off the platform was merely wishful thinking, and General Motors – itself concerned about the cost of the platform – had steadily jettisoned its own projected Premium models, including those earmarked for Cadillac, Buick and Saab. However, this late transition to what was fundamentally designed as an E-segment platform left the 159 compromised, and along with its coupe and convertible sisters the Brera and Spider, saddled with excessive weight when it hit the market.
Also on the debit side were the new car’s engines. Replacing Alfa Romeo’s much-admired ‘Arese’ V6 engine, which was coming to the end of its useable life, with a much less sparkling GM-sourced 3.2 V6, failed to impress Alfisti, as did the 159’s four-cylinder petrol engines, also sourced from the American alliance. The lacklustre petrol efforts made the diesels, including the ubiquitous 1.9-litre four-cylinder MultiJet and powerful and sonorous (albeit heavy) 2.4-litre five-pot, the pick of the range. Launching models with the wrong engines has been a continual problem for Alfa Romeo, and the addition of two strong engines that Alfisti would expect to find under the bonnet (including the petrol 1750 TBi two years ago), came too late in the day to make a sales impact.
Building on the success of the 156 (of which more than 600,000 were built), the design brief for the 159, enacted by Giorgetto Giugiaro in association with Alfa Romeo Centro Stile, was for evolution rather than revolution. But although Giugiaro noted the 159 at the time received the highest-ever score in customer clinics in the history of Italdesign, the delays in the car’s development meant the car launched at the Geneva Motor Show in 2005, just as automotive styling was fundamentally moving towards more organic forms. Importantly, it also grew significantly in size – adding some 225mm over its predecessor – which helped disassociate itself from the huge collective of 156 buyers who were looking to trade in their cars for a replacement model. Just as crucially, however, Alfa’s senior management as ever misread the brand’s positioning in the eyes of customers and made the fundamental error of trying to pitch the 159 squarely at BMW, Mercedes and Audi owners.
Despite this, the 159 was not without plenty of attributes, chief among which were its striking and elegant aesthetics. First impressions from the media when it debuted at the Geneva Motor Show in 2005 were highly positive. The front was dominated by a large, vertical Alfa Romeo ‘family’ grille, flanked on each side by three small lights, a very characteristic design first seen on the Brera concept. (Unfortunately, this design’s poor aerodynamic characteristics have seen Alfa move towards less distinctive front ends in subsequent designs.) Swages running the full length of the sides combined with the large C-pillars and slender A-pillars to give the car a robust appearance, in an effort to finally combat perceptions of Alfas being ‘fragile’. The overt use of all four door handles (as opposed to the concealed rear handles on the 156) likewise reinforced the size of the car. These features were designed in particular with the American market in mind, and the 159 was developed to U.S. homologation standards, although a comeback by the brand to this market, as ever, was postponed. The rear echoed the styling of the rest of the car, with small round inserts in the light clusters and a horizontal theme echoed by the swaging, closely referencing the 156. More powerful versions received exhaust systems with twin tailpipes.
Because the Alfa 159 was a much larger car than its predecessor, it provided a more comfortable interior, as well as a more engaging driving position than the 156. With all the controls and instruments well positioned around the driver, the Alfa 159 offered a considerably more driver-biased interior than most of its rivals, the turbo boost (or oil temperature for petrol engines) gauge being just one example. Much higher quality materials that on the 156 were used, blending the sporty feel of aluminium with leather.
With the 159 project, Alfa Romeo also aimed to reach new levels of passive safety. The robust Premium floorpan was developed with this in mind, and adopted high performance materials, multiple layers of sheet metal and the use of laser welding. Traditional methods such as boxed sections, increased welding in structural areas and longitudinal members all helped make the car exceptionally safe in the case of an incident. They also produced a very torsionally rigid bodyshell – one of the most rigid on the market – which helped benefit ride and handling, at the expense of kerb weight. In terms of active safety, the Alfa 159 was well equipped with up to eight airbags (including driver and passenger knee airbags), innovative restraint systems, and front seats with an ‘anti-whiplash’ device, which moved the head restraint nearer to the occupants’ necks in the event of a rear impact.
At launch, there were three new ‘JTS’ (direct injection) petrol engines, all with continuous dual variable valve timing on both inlet and exhaust valves. Available were the aforementioned GM-sourced 3.2-litre 24-valve V6 delivering 260 bhp, featuring cylinder heads reworked by Alfa Romeo’s engineers for its more performance-focused application, a 2.2 16V generating 185 bhp, and a 1.9 16V (160 bhp). Arriving later was a non-direct-injection 1.8 to lower the price point of the 159. Developing 140bhp, it was shared with a variety of GM models, as well as the Fiat Croma.
In terms of diesel options, there were another three units, a 2.4 JTDm 5-cylinder 20V engine (200 bhp) and two 1.9 JTDm engines – one with 16 valves and delivering 150 bhp at 4000 rpm, the other with 8 valves and 120 bhp. All these used the latest MultiJet development of the JTD common-rail injection system as well as variable geometry turbochargers and intercoolers. All the engines met Euro 4 standards, whilst the diesels featured particulate traps (DPF) with a ‘for life’ system. These six launch engines were mated up to various transmissions, all with six speeds. Both conventional manual and robotised Selespeed units were offered, with conventional automatic boxes, known as Q-Tronic, optional on some of the engines. The latter could be operated as a conventional automatic or in sequential mode. The Alfa 159 employed ‘high’ double wishbones at the front, and a multilink setup at the rear. The 159 was also equipped with a full array of electronic aids, including ABS, ASR, HBS, EBD, MSR and VDC.
On the 260bhp V6 version, the power was transmitted to all four wheels through a permanent 4-wheel drive system with three differentials (including a Torsen C self-locking central differential) developed from that on the 159 Crosswagon Q4. This system split the torque constantly and dynamically between the four wheels, the Torsen-C self-locking central differential sending about 57% of the engine’s output to the rear wheels and 43% to the front.
As is now the norm for such a class of car, numerous devices and systems were fitted (or optional) to make life on board as comfortable as possible, including cruise control, rain, dusk and parking sensors (front and rear), a satellite navigation system, voice controls, a built-in GSM hands-free telephone, automatic climate control with dual or triple-zone temperatures, a radio-CD-MP3 player with 10-disc autochanger, a Bose Hi-Fi Sound System, seats with electrical adjustment, folding rear seats, and a push-button ignition switch on the console.
The estate version, known as the Sportwagon, emerged one year after the saloon. Retaining the frontal styling of the saloon but adding a true load-lugging rear end, it managed to look purposeful and aggressive, even with its practical inclinations. Apart from the rear bodywork, the Sportwagon was identical to the saloon, including the same wheelbase and overall length.
In 2007 the 2.4 MultiJet diesel engine saw its power grow from 200bhp to 210bhp, except when the Q-Tronic automatic transmission was specified, in which case output remained at 200bhp. More changes came in 2008, when a series of minor tweaks were made to the product and range. A new system called ‘Electronic Q2’ was introduced, which provides a similar functionality to a limited-slip differential by using differential braking. A series of changes to the interior included new fabrics, styles, dashboard, instruments and materials. The 3.2 V6 became available with front-wheel-drive (previously only available with AWD), while in a related attempt to lose the kilos, a weight reduction programme was enacted, which saw the 159 lose around 45kg from the kerb weight.
Also in 2007, Alfa Romeo launched, at the 77th Geneva Motor Show, the newly reborn Ti specification onto the 159 (the famous historical designation was already available for the smaller Alfa 147). The Ti (Turismo Internazionale) kit included 20mm lowered suspension, Brembo braking system, 19” alloy wheels and high-performance 235/40 R19 tyres. Alfa Romeo's management also planned to extend the Ti makeover to include mechanical improvements to enhance the performance of the engines but this never materialised.
Unlike almost all its predecessors, the 159 never saw itself become the focus of a factory-supported racing programme as by the time of its launch in the middle of the last decade Alfa Romeo's management had turned their backs on a century of sporting success, shunning the brand's historic philosophy of beating rivals on track as the key marketing yardstick. Some private racing efforts were however undertaken by importers notably in Australia where in 2009 a 2.4 Multijet-powered Alfa 159 comfortably won the class reserved for diesel-powered cars in the Bathurst 12 Hours.
Tuners also turned their attention to the 159, although working with the new breed of direct injection engines raised the bar too high for most. However, Alfa Romeo aftermarket design and tuning leader, Autodelta, seized the opportunity to give the sedan the performance it was lacking and turn it into the complete package; its supercharged 3.2 litre V6 version hiked power from a standard 260 bhp to 352 bhp while a similar forced induction makeover for the 2.2 litre raised power from 145 bhp to 245 bhp.
The Geneva Show of 2009 saw a revised range launched, the most significant development being the addition of two new engines. The first was an all-new, high-performance turbocharged 1750 unit with 200bhp and direct injection, twin variable camshafts and unique scavenging technology. The second was a 170bhp 2.0 JTDm turbocharged diesel unit. An ECO version of the latter engine was later added, which used different tyres and gear ratios to reduce the fuel consumption and emissions. The arrival of these two highly capable units soon led to the 159 abandoning its cluster of GM-sourced engines; the Fiat-GM joint venture was long since history by this point. Unfortunately, however they came too late to change perceptions of the model amongst the general public. They were the right engines - but at the wrong time; while the lack of a meaningful mid-life facelift didn't help the model’s cause."

@GTI sportska sprava

Mislim da je ovo vise nego dovoljno:

"Die Besten Autos 2007 Import category (Auto, Motor und Sport)"

http://web.archive.org/web/20070427092123/http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_501678_14140.hbs

Od GTI za neke je jedino bolji TDI.

@GTI sportska sprava

Zar nije SDI najbolji, tj. saVWrsen?

@ carobnjak 02 Sep 2011, 22:22
jesi Ti to skupio moje nekadašnje komentare i preveo na engleski?

@Ex Italo fan
Malo tvoji, malo moji... :)))

@ carobnjak
važi.

A dok se proizvodio, gde su ovom vozilu napred bili "žmigavci"? Šta od "onoga"?

SDI je pravljen da bude u klasi konkurencije, jer ne vole svi najbolje.
Inače zašto bi neko kupio Italijanski, Korejski, pa i Francuski auto?

@Moron
Ovaj na slici nije pravljen za vožnju. Samo za gledanje, pa su žmigavci izbačeni kao ružan detalj. Isto je i sa reg. tablicom.

@ Moron
na većini proizvedenih primeraka još uvek se nalaze zmeđu oborenog i dugog svetla.

GTI sportska sprava
Mislim da bi naša nova registarska tablica bitno ugrozila aerodinamiku ovog vozila ( a ne samo dizajn ).
A za "žmigavce" mi stvarno nije jasno, pošto taj detalj "na ulici" nikad nisam primetio

Ex Italo fan
Znači "srednja"? Fala...
A "dnevna" i pored opšteg trenda nisu nikad dizajnirali?

@GTI sportska sprava
zato sto ne podnosi "naciste"!

Specijalno za tebe, i to na tvom jeziku!

Alfa Romeo 159 - better car than BMW 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zON4bWsl2Ek&feature=related

@ Moron
http://images.paultan.org/images2/Autodelta_Alfa_159_J4_Compressore.jpg
na ovoj sličici se naziru.

A šta je bio Duče? Kućni ljubimac?

Ex Italo fan
Da, baš lepo izgleda. Pozdrav

Ah ta Alfa...
Već decenijama kruže priče o Alfi kao kvarljivom automobilu.
Ja lično to ne mogu da potvrdim, ali gde ima dima i vatra postoji.
S druge strane, Alfa je dizajnerski ispred svih. Ima odlične performanse, leži na putu kao da je zalepljena. Mislim da je Alfa najstabilniji automobil sa prednjom vučom.
Onda, ima i neki svoj šarm i neku svoju posebnost koju je teško opisati.
Nisam ljubitelj Alfe, ali je veoma poštujem.
Kada bih imao veća primanja. Odnosno, toliko velika da vozim nekog dobrog i relativno novog BMW-a i pored toga imam novca za još jedan automobil, taj drugi automobil bi bio Alfa 147 pre restajlinga.
Znači, voleo bih da kupim Alfu uprkos lošim glasinama koje je prate.
A da, ovde je reč o 159-ci. 159-ka je prelep automobil, možda i najlepši u klasi. Unutrašnjost je u potpunosti u sportskom stilu, što se meni mnogo dopada. Nikada nisam sedeo u 159-ci i neznam kakvi su materijali u enterijeru. Nadam se da su bolji nego na 156-ici, jer je kvalitet materijala u 156-ici očajno jeftin i loš, iako je dizajnerski lep.

@Cvele
Imas sve u tekstu koji sam postavio. Pozdrav!

@Cvele

Na 159 je kvalitetniji enterijer dosta.

Zaboravio sam da postavim izvor teksta, ima i par odlicnih fotki!

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2011/cars/alfa_romeo/08/159/1508.html

@carobnjak

Mnogo je dugačak takst. Ko će to sve da čita. :D

Možda kasnije pročitam.

Pozdrav.

@Cvele
Slika=1000 reci! :)

@Dejan L
Ma zakuni se da bi se prodavala kao luda za 15.000!?!O,Boze...
@carobnjak
100 puta,100 puta...
Alfa lako moze da bude automobil kojeg ces videti dosta na ulicama,ali su na losem glasu!Ona nema cenu 'premijum trojke',a,nema je kao sto ima njih na ulicama...
Zasto?
Nije to samo kod nas...Pogledaj prodaju u Evropi i sire...
Jedan A4 koji je skuplji od 159 se proda godisnje u vise primeraka nego sto Alfa proda sve modele...

Neko je rekao da nije sigurno ni kupiti polovnu Alfu zato sto to svi 'akaju',tj koriste svaku ks...
Ako neko siluje neki automobil,tj ako pomislis na nekog polovnjaka da je silovan zestoko,to je za BMW,ali ljudi opet kupuju...
p.S
Bmw je u 2010-toj prodao oko 300 i nesto hiljada Bmw 3,a Alfa sve modele oko 120.000...Zanimljivo...Ah,taj ruzni Bmw,i ta lepotica Alfa...

@ dusan
Pa to sam napisao zbog dušebrižnika koji kažu da je Alfa precenjena. A drugo, ako bi se sklapala u Kini, ne bi smela ni da košta više od 15k €

Koliko gluposti covek moze da procita na jednom mestu, pricate o pouzdanosti a nikad niste ni seli u ovaj automobil. Od laika jedini prihvatljivi komentari za ovaj automobil mogu da budu oni na racun izgleda i eventualno neko ko je sedeo u njemu na sajmu moze da kaze da nema prostora pozadi i da je mali otvor gepeka.

@Bati
Ako si rekao!
Da imam nekih 13-14 hiljada uzeo bih 159 1.9 JTS ili Breru 1750 TBi za nekih 20 i nesto hiljada, benzinca sa manjom km, ali samo zato sto je to po meni najlepsi auto, ne zbog legendarne (ne)proverene (ne)pouzdanosti - kad srce bira ;)

idealizovati jedu marku... to je odlika onih koji su probali samo salamu i jedu je ceo zivot i tvrde da je bolja i ukusnija od sunke kobasice morskih plodova i svega drugog!!!!
vw nije nikakvo merilo kvaliteta sem u autobild magazinu!!! obican prosecan auto a i brend i ni ucemu nije najbolji!!! ni najlepsi ni naj udobniji ni najbrzi niti najmanje trosi a i kvare se isto koliko i drugi!!
imao sam ih dosta sem sto je skuplji nicim drugim nije iznaed pezoa i citroena recimo!!! cak tvrdim da su novi citroeni za dva koplja iznad vagena!!!!!

@SRBENDA
Kakav tendeciozni komentar. A ljagaš Auto bild kao pristrasan!

@Srbenda
Jedino za ovo poslednje ne znam posto nisam imao kontakta sa Citroenima mladjim od 4 god. ali za ovo ostalo ga ubode.
P.S. Oni noviji (relativno) Citroeni sa kojima sam imao kontakt nisu ni malo zaostajali za ''narodnim'' autom.

Ja samo ne znam kako mozete na osnovu prica o modelima alfe iz 90-ih godina da kazete da je alfa 159 nepouzdan i kvarljuv auto??? Pa ja sam ove godine samo u CG pored puta video bar 30(ukupno) bmw-a i VW-a u kvaru.... Koliko vas sa VW-om moze da se pohvali da je za poslednjih 4,5 godina voznje jednog auta kod majstora islo samo na redovno odrzavanje(zamena ulja, filtera i sl.) A sto se tice onih koji u ovu pricu uvode audi A5(koji prelepo izgleda) reci cu samo da izguglaju ko je dizajnirao uopste taj auto... Ja samo mogu da garantujem da ste svi vi sa VW-ima za poslednjih 5 godina ulozili u svoj auto vise para i da vas je vise puta prodao nego mene moja 156 koja je daleko ispod 159 i po kvalitetu i po svemu ostalom... Toliko od mene, a vi svi koji pljujete 159 i alfu kao brend, mogu da kazem samo da lecite frustracije i komplekse koje vam pravi bilo koja alfa na semaforu ili parkingu pored dok sedite u bezlicnom nemackom autu, bez duse i krajickom oka gledate savrsenstvo dizajna...

Sto ne urade ovu lepoticu nekvarljivu? Ovi su ludi, uhvatili sе macho dizajnom, a napustaju izvornu italijansku lepotu. Ode Fiat grupa u kukuruz

Alfa Romeo 159 je automobil koji ce ostati upamcen po vanvremenskom dizajnu i atraktivnosti.Auto je dizajnirao Djudjaro dizajn i napravio odlican posao.Sklad,proporcije...prava lepotica!Mozda joj najbolje lezi crvena boja i felne 18``.Ljudi treba da shvate da se automobili Alfa Romeo kupuju srcem i to ih razlikuje od ostalih...Cuore Sportivo-Sportsko Srce

pasat pored alfe 159 izgleda kao da su ga pravila deca na tehnickom.Potpisujem i da nije kvalitetniji od nje.Treba bas da budes ogranicen da to kupis a ne ovu alfu,al svakakvih ljudi ima.

Alfa je panter na drumu...onaj ko nema osecaj za voznju putnickog vozilane moze da sudi o ovom automobilu.

Nije cudo sto se4 ne pravi jer dosadi menjati viljuske svakih 5000 km, zezati se sa EGR ventilom i DPF filterom i drugim glupostima....kvacilom i zamajcem itd..a ovi sto hvale Audi neka pogledaju Sindlerovu listu...pa nemcima orah iz ruke ne treba uzeti...ako je Hitler bio blesav nisu ostali milioni nemaca bili blesavi.Kolektivno poicen narod