Šef razvoja proizvoda pri BMW M GmbH odeljenju Carsten Priest je otkrio da postoji snažna želja u okviru ove kompanije da napravi konkurenta modelima Audi R8 ili Mercedes-AMG GT.
On je rekao da je kompanija otvorena za ideju superautomobila ali da su problem resursi. Kako je objasnio ovaj rukovodilac kompanija ima više ideja nego što budžet to dozvoljava i mora da se vidi koji su prioriteti pa će se onda odlučiti šta dalje.
Uprkos tome što je Priest indirektno rekao da kompanija neće praviti superautomobil, on je rekao da ta ideja nije kompletno odbačena.
Izvor: Moto.rs
Render: arhiva Autoblog.rs / Autobild.de
Pa toma nam ovde pisao eseje i hvalio se i radovao bmw-ovom profitu, veci od Mercedesa itd, pa sta sad bi ?!
Ресурси постоје али приоритети су јачи.
БМВ нема производњу камиона и аутобуса попут Фолцике и Дајмлера и сходно томе морају да инвестирају тамо где се уложено најбрже и највише враћа.
Фолцика и Бркамен покушавају да надокнаде имиџ производњом фењераша и није их брига што расипају лову, важно је пошто пото представити себе и у том спортском смислу.
А са друге стране Баварци још увек праве базу и шире портфолио. Е када се база направи (а близу је) онда ће бити и надоградње... :)
sto vjerujes drugima , imas internet , progooglaj i vidi sam gdje je bmw a gdje mercedes a gdje audi po finansijama.
pit
ti se radujes na osnovu informacija koje su uzete iz konteksta i nemaju veze sa istinom. Kako mozes da poverujes u ovakvu informaciju, tj. da bi neki BMW zvanicnik izasao javno i rekao:"uprava nema para da napravimo auto" Ali OK, u ovim susnim godinama, i Merc fanovima mora da se da koja mrvica za radost. Makar ta mrvica bila fatamorgana.
Evo i originalnog izvora vesti:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/114101782996/bmw-m-wants-a-supercar-but-their-resources-are-limited
Limitirani su mozda da toliko uloze u SS auto koji ce da se ubrzo isplati. Neki prave te SS ali im se ne isplati..ukratko
mozda nece biti neki m ss,ali i9 je tu.valjda.toma je imao info da su i9 odobrili,dok klasicni m ss bez hibridnog pogona nece biti u opticaju.valjda:)
zadnja vest od 27 septembra:
According to insider sources from BMW, the German automaker has green-lighted a new supercar for production in 2016 tentatively dubbed the i9 at this stage.
The model will be revealed to help BMW celebrate its centenary in 2016 and will likely be heavily based around the existing i8 hybrid.
Mogu toma i gagiba da pisu romane, nalaze opravdanja itd ali cinjenice se znaju.
Jos su se povukli iz F1 pa i tu stede prilicnu sumu.
Mozda ce za jedno 20-ak god skupiti za ss auto, kad bude doslo vreme da budu samo elektro, izbace i8-ci drajcilindera i eto ga ! :D
mc f1....
http://www.autozeitung.de/classic-cars/mclaren-f1-fahrbericht-supersportler-v12-mittelmotor-bilder-technische-daten
STrider upravu si nisu oni jos na nivou audija i mercedesa - nemogu ni biti kad je njihov nivo veci
Ne razumem verovatno si srecan sto se u mc f1 nalazi bmw-ov motor....ne brini tu je zonda i zonda r sa zna se cijim motorima :))
@bs8
Kakve to veze ima?
Nego Mercedes osim kamiona, autobusa i auta ima i banku.
@bs8
Kakve to veze ima?
Nego Mercedes osim kamiona, autobusa i auta ima i banku.
Ovi koji se "raduju" ovoj vesti, bez obzira sto nisu procitali i(li) shvatili clanak, porucujem da procitaju opet vest i, ako treba, potraze definiciju reci "proritet". BMW-ovi prioriteti su od pre 6 godina poceli da se menjaju sa snaznog prisustva u sportskom segmentu, uzeg proizvodnog programa uz siroke alternative u ponudi i varijabilnosti postojecih modela, kao i znatnih ulaganja u auto-moto sport, na prioritete kao sto su alternativni pogon, obnovljiva energija, i sira proizvodna paleta sa razvojem potpuno novih platformi, za ucesce u segmentima u kojima BMW ranije nije imao svoje adute. Vase misljenje je vasa stvar, ali dokaz da BMW zna sta radi su podaci o prodaji na globalnom nivou, gde je BMW vec 8 godina ispred Audija i Mercedesa. Supersportski automobil zaista nedostaje u BMW paleti, ali ljudi razmisljaju ekonomski i trzisno, i tako nesto verovatno ne vide kao opravdano ulaganje u trenutnoj ekonomskoj situaciji u svetu. Ljudi moraju da razmisljaju tako, jer sami odrzavaju sebe. Ne stoji iza njih ceo koncern i milijarde podrske kao iza Mercedesa i narocito Audija, cije greske i gubitke moze (i uvek ce) da pokrije maticni VW. Ili, sto bi nas narod rekao, lako je tudjom "rabotom" gloginje mlatiti. BMW samo krci svoj put, i ima svoje ideje kojom stazom ce u buducnost. I, po svim relevantnim podacima, ide im odlicno za sad. Tako da, manje tudjih briga i vise realnosti u komentarima. Nece da skodi ;-)
BMW je u porodicnom vlasnistvu. Sto znaci da oni derktno novac iz svog dzhepa ulazu u proizvodnju. A ovo verovatno nije rpofitabilan projekat, tako da eto razloga zasto od cele price nema nista.
320i 19 Okt 2014, 19:23
Samo da ti kažem da niko ne stoji iza Mercedesa, jeste korporacija Daimler ali je nju Mercedes osnovao. S druge strane, BMW korporacija obuhvata BMW, Mini, RR i Husqvarnu.
hh
informacije su ti:
1. netacne
2. zastarele
Husqvarna vise nije u sastavu BMW-a(to je pod 2).
Pazi ovako, da te naucim nesto. 70% daimlera drze razni investicioni fondovi, druge kompanije, itd, dok je u privatnom vlasnistvu manje od 20% akcija Daimlera. S druge strane, kod BMW-a, samo porodica Quandt drzi skoro 50% akcija. I ako nisi znao, BMW je jedini veliki proizvodjac automobila koji je vecinski u privatnom vlasnistvu.
bit svake auto industrije je proizvodit i prodat sto vise - sta treba bmw super auto da sa njim ide u minus nema potrebe za tim - imaju m seriju kome je malo nek uzme tjuniranu i eto svakog ferarija mogu zgazit - a i8 je svemirski brod za r8 i amgt gt
@hh 19 Okt 2014, 20:38
Auu prijatelju, al' ga ti odvali! Toliko volis Mercedes, a ne znas kako je nastao. Ukratko, Gotlib Dajmler i Vilhelm Majbah su osnovali kompaniju "Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaf". Ta firma je za Emila Jelineka, tadasnjeg velikog biznismena, napravila automobil prema njegovim zahtevima. Jelinek je hteo da otkupi celu seriju tih automobila, ali uslov je bio da se zovu Mercedes, kao Jelinekova jedanaestogodisnja cerkica. Ti automobili su doziveli veliki uspeh, pa je Dajmler sve automobile kasnije prodavao pod imenom Mercedes. Tako ti je, druze moj, nastao tvoj omiljeni brend, koji nije nista drugo do naziva za proizvode firme Dajmler.
Tako je i Intel napravio procesor Pentium, pa su kasnije mnogi racunare nazivali Pentiumom, bez obzira da li je u njima bio procesor drugog proizvodjaca. :)
Evo jedna slika iz Merc muzeja. Valjda prva knjigovodsvena sveska, ili tako nesto, ne secam se tacno....:)
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2W/H8/3fyx4Xvi/dsc3101.jpg
O.P.
Prijatelju, a kamo Karl Benz ?!
Na njega si zaboravio...
Jelinek je automobile kupovao za trke. I njegov trkački tim se zvao Mercedes.
Zbog velikog uspeha koji je postizao na trkama, prihvaćen je naziv Mercedes za kasnije automobile. Ako baš već hoćeš da znaš. :D
Inače Karl Benz je prvi izmislio automobil i patentirao gotovo sve patente koji čine automobil.
Kasnije su se udružili Benz i DMG.
Pitinjo, mrzelo me je da pisem i o udruzivanju sa Benzom, neka sam nadje pa neka procita.
The same was also said in an interview that the head of the M division gave recently and which was just published in the latest issue of the German magazin "sport auto":
The desire from the M division is certainly there, but the electrical division has priority and no M supercar is planned to be developed. He also said that the M division would not collaborate with the i division on a supercar based on the i8, as both have completely different priorities. He called that "book end strategy", for the M and i divisions being the bookends for the entire BMW strategy.
I believe that at least this aspect of BMW's strategy is wrong. Reasons:
- Both their main competitors for anything connected to sportive driving (Audi, AMG, Porsche) have at least one supercar, and it is obvious that such a halo car is very beneficial for other models of the same brand.
- The huge interest and positive reactions both from press and market to the i8 have proven that there definitely is a market for a BMW supercar.
- The claim the budget is too high and that you need at least 1bn to develop a new car is just a pretext, a lame excuse. If companies like Lamborghini, Ferrari and McLaren can produce supercars that are generally met with universal acclaim, and which financially speaking are far less robust, then BMW could easily do the same.
It seems to me the main problem is marketing related: BMW has concentrated itself and everyone's attention on the i8 as far as a sportive 2-seater is concerned, with a focus on an the electrical powertrain. If they were to use a similar carbon body for a petrol-powered supercar (at around the same price or even lower due to the less complex setup), this would make the i8 far less attractive and would counter their own claims to focus on sustainability for the entire BMW brand.
Like it or not, the aspect of sports driving along with the entire M division has become a mere appendix to BMW and mainly a marketing tool. BMW does not produce and does not intend to produce in a foreseeable future a real sportscar. And why should they? The head of the M division said that the management does not see it as necessary as sales are thriving without spending money on a project like a supercar. And if you look at the entire line-up of BMW (all the X cars, the new FWD cars etc.), only a tiny fraction of it has any connection to sportive driving. And even of those (Z4, M5, M6), their character is questionable...
evo,dobili smo objasnjenje od glavnog insajdera:
There is some responses here that myself and many of my colleagues in Munich try not to choke when spitting out the word "enthusiast" in anger.
Granted it is a minority.
The most important thing that has been overlooked in this non relevant "puff piece" which I will explain why because BMW executives do not mention future products as the fact which this report has done. Interviews are conducted in the face of handlers which make sure you do not reveal too much.
But overlooked in the article is the fact that the BMW halo Sports car the BMW i8 has just hit the market and is not even a year on sale.
Why would BMW follow up this car immediately with something else when they are making headlines with this achievement.
There is headlines and attributes on the i8 but there is one phrase that echos in every sentence written about the i8 ....The Future...
The Future... The i8 is many achievements and answers the realm of possibility for a company like BMW it has the ability to be a landmark and a beacon for what is possible in a sports car. The i8 is a pioneer in many areas it does embarrass established sports cars especially what has been achieved for either less or the same money. The i8 is innovation at its highest peak , the i8 is desirability and like I said the i8 is The Future.
A road no one has even bothered to drive on. But they will...Eventually they will.
If we look at the i8 it might be a new product but its possibilities have grown since its sign off, it is too early to all about anything yet but let's us say that the possibilities and potential have increased and can very much retain the philosophy of the i8 in which less is most definitely more.
As is the M Division that can use the technical know-how and material construction.
The problem lies with patience. Some refuse to acknowledge the i8 because it is Not... And that is its character and reception because it is not...
There lies its status as BMWs halo car. Because its a window to what will be coming to your 7er , 5er and 3er. Its the template to an exciting future for volume cars and for BMW as a manufacturer as it will allow targets to be reached and exceed normal construction methods ahead of their competitors.
For now the moment belongs to the i8. Others will get their moment but patience is needed to allow progress.
And let the new guys get to work